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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #30 on: 17 May 2007, 08:35:37 PM »
Quote from: basje13 on 17 May 2007, 05:52:29 PM
So which tv is better on overall performance, the Toshiba 42 X 3030 D, or the Samsung 40 M86 B?
I'm kind of doubting between the two of them, and can't really find if one has a better overall performance.

Thanks in advance,

Basje

hi guys, thanks for great review. Which one handles SD better? Most probably I will buy the Toshiba unless the 40N86 is released really soon and having your settings would be very useful  ;)
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #31 on: 17 May 2007, 08:40:48 PM »
Quote from: Colin on 01 May 2007, 02:06:21 PM
Please discuss the Toshiba 42X3030D review article here. Thank you.

Hi Colin, would you consider creating a top-level forum for the Toshiba tv's please (perhaps even a forum per brand of which you have reviewed a unit would be ideal), just like the Panasonic and Samsung forums your already have there?

Would make it a bit easier for us readers to find posts.

Thanks!
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #32 on: 17 May 2007, 10:52:30 PM »
Quote from: Vowani on 17 May 2007, 07:50:03 PM
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  • When connecting a computer to it via VGA, max resolution is 1366x768. If I would have a computer with a video card with an HDMI connector, would I then get 1:1 mapping of 1920x1080?
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Yes, maximum resolution via VGA is 1366x768, 1980x1080 via HDMI. You will have the TrueScan (or ExactScan) option for 1:1 mapping via HDMI.

And even if I´m starting to annoy you: Please release the complete settings incl. the Service Menu settings. Please please please...
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #33 on: 17 May 2007, 11:00:15 PM »
What he said ^^^^
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #34 on: 18 May 2007, 02:25:58 AM »
I know it's a pain that TV's don't get it right the first time. Otherwise we won't be in this mess. Our settings are not magical and most certainly will not 'survive' the varied conditions out there. All this will change the final impression of the picture.

Personal preference
Ambient light
Source material
Players (different black level, contrast settings)
Intramodel variation

I don't know if we're gonna land in hot soup after releasing these `worthless' settings. You are not covered if any changes to the service menu cause problems. And we don't wanna run a thread rescuing people from cockups. Let us mull over this for the next few days.



« Last Edit: 23 May 2007, 11:04:55 AM by Colin »
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #35 on: 18 May 2007, 07:04:36 AM »
I think you should publish service menu settings as people are bound to try and tinker. At least we would know what we should be changing,especially when you say things in the review about being able to get far better performance with the grey scale and contrast its just asking for trouble.
A simple disclamer and the origonal settings would cover your backs surely.
Thank you for listening Colin , Vincent.

Lee
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #36 on: 18 May 2007, 11:12:41 AM »
Quote from: Colin on 18 May 2007, 02:25:58 AM
Our settings are not magical and most certainly will not 'survive' the varied conditions out there...

...I don't know if we're gonna land in hot soup after releasing these `worthless' settings. You are not covered if any changes to the service menu cause problems. And we don't wanna run a thread rescuing people from cockups...

Hi Colin, thanks for responding to our requests for settings.  I can't speak for the rest of the folks on this thread but I fully take on board what you're saying. 

My thoughts on the subject are that in publishing the settings you used in your calibration you are 'completing' the review by providing an additional context for the results you obtained:

I think we for the most part agree that out-of-the-box, colour needs some tuning, and maybe to a lesser degree, grey scale refinement for the more adventurous (those willing to accept the risks that go with that).

In all cases any settings published should be subject to disclaimer: mileage will vary depending on environmental conditions; and that you accept no liability for the settings or any damage that arises from applying them.  In fact with respect to SM settings, you needn't publish details on how to apply them - your settings are simply a statement of what you used to achieve the results you did.
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #37 on: 18 May 2007, 09:37:43 PM »
@ Colin

I really understand your concerns, but you should at least give everybody the chance to test the settings you archieved a great picture with in your review. Maybe you´re right and the setting won´t work for everybody. But I trust your opinion so much that I would like to try it at least.

@ RockySpieler

Maybe this could help you: http://www.imagesoftcorp.com/X81Designer.zip
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #38 on: 18 May 2007, 10:17:40 PM »
I would just like to ask, how black absolute black is supposed to look on this TV, for me they seem grey blue.  Especially the bands at the top and bottom of a letterbox movie.  Is this a feature of LCD or could i have a problem with my set.  I currently have my back light set to 30.  Would really appreciate those calibration settings, so i can put my mind at rest.
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #39 on: 19 May 2007, 10:13:37 PM »
Hello all,

One question regarding the 42X3030D: how does it handle 3:2/2:2 pulldown-induced judder? I've recently tested a Sony 40W2000, and while the image was great, I found myself getting a headache whenever the camera panned, as the background and large objects juddered hugely.

Does the 42X3030D, with its 24p-mode, eliminate judder, how well does it handle motion in general - and (seeing as you've reviewed that set also) how does it compare to the Sony 40W2000 (taking into account that the latter costs about £300 more)?

Cheers,

Andy

EDIT: Just read that the set doesn't output 24 multiples - so I'm guessing this means judder-a-plenty on fast pans? :(
« Last Edit: 20 May 2007, 06:21:59 PM by Andy_X »
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #40 on: 19 May 2007, 11:28:42 PM »
Quote from: the  face on 18 May 2007, 09:37:43 PM
@ Colin

I really understand your concerns, but you should at least give everybody the chance to test the settings you archieved a great picture with in your review. Maybe you´re right and the setting won´t work for everybody. But I trust your opinion so much that I would like to try it at least.

@ RockySpieler

Maybe this could help you: http://www.imagesoftcorp.com/X81Designer.zip

Thanks, I've seen a list of them before, but nothing as comprehensive as that.

There are fewer options on-screen when using the 42X3030D, do you know if the others can be input with the remote codes, or are they for legacy models???

@HDTV Guys

Please post the settings, and the panel code (the big letter next to the serial number), mine is a C (CMO) others have A (AUO).

btw watching the FA cup today via freeview, 6 foot was a little close for SD quality, back on the sofa (now about 8 foot) and it looked better. I had to turn up the sharpness a bit, as I was getting a strange milky effect on the close up's of Hansen (and I wasn't even drinking!).

RockySpieler
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #41 on: 20 May 2007, 09:37:50 PM »
Quote from: RockySpieler on 19 May 2007, 11:28:42 PM
Thanks, I've seen a list of them before, but nothing as comprehensive as that.

There are fewer options on-screen when using the 42X3030D, do you know if the others can be input with the remote codes, or are they for legacy models???

@HDTV Guys

Please post the settings, and the panel code (the big letter next to the serial number), mine is a C (CMO) others have A (AUO).
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Hm, I don´t think the list is valid for all Toshiba LCDs and I wouldn´t take the risk to find out ;) I just thought it could help for understanding the different menu values better.
And there are AU Optronics panels around? Where did you get this information from? Everybody in the German HiFi forum has a C(MO) panel so far and I never heard of anybody with an AUO panel. Are there any differences? Humming noises, better viewing angle?
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #42 on: 21 May 2007, 12:41:17 PM »
Quote from: Andy_X on 19 May 2007, 10:13:37 PM
EDIT: Just read that the set doesn't output 24 multiples - so I'm guessing this means judder-a-plenty on fast pans? :(
Where do you read that?
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #43 on: 21 May 2007, 02:34:58 PM »
Quote from: PatHou on 21 May 2007, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: Andy_X on 19 May 2007, 10:13:37 PM
EDIT: Just read that the set doesn't output 24 multiples - so I'm guessing this means judder-a-plenty on fast pans? :(
Where do you read that?
I haven't seen anyone confïrm it, but the only 2 reviews that mention 24fps (I forget which ones), both state that it is highly unlikely. They seem pretty sure that the Tosh simply converts 24fps to 60hz - which (AFAIK) makes the feature a bit useless. Hop I'm wrong, though...

Andy
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Re: Toshiba 42x3030D
« Reply #44 on: 21 May 2007, 05:08:13 PM »
From the following Toshiba leaflet, the different Toshiba X3030 accept a 1920x1080p@24Hz signal and restitute it in a most fidelity manner to a moving image as shot on 24 fps cameras.

http://www.fgcom.com/Portals/0/espacesclients/2007%2005%2011%20s%c3%a9rie%20X.pdf

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Les 2 prises numériques HDMI sont compatibles 1080p et permettent donc d’afficher un signal progressif en 1080 lignes. De plus elles acceptent un signal 24Hz, soit 24 images par seconde et restituent dans les conditions les plus fidèles les 24 images par seconde filmées par les caméras de cinéma.
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