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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #30 on: 27 December 2012, 10:44:07 PM »

not good marty at all.

No mate, it was poor show again. Maybe I'm just to fussy ??.
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #31 on: 28 December 2012, 01:38:19 AM »
I don't think there is any viewing angle issue with passive 3D at the cinema. As far as I'm aware, that only exists because of the underlying LCD issues.

But, it's not true at all that passive is free of crosstalk. Nearly every passive display tech I've seen has featured it.

The dirty screen effect is a big deal for me too. It's caused by high gain screens.

The RealD system, which uses a polarizing screen, seems indeed to have viewing angle issues, David. Whenever I get a seat at the far left or the far right of the theater, the opposite part of the screen looks darker. Never had that issue at theaters using Dolby's system...
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #32 on: 28 December 2012, 02:01:47 AM »
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This DSE effect David, are you saying its the projectors screen at fault not a pj fault ?. Is this common at cinemas ?.
Yes, the screen is the problem. My understanding is that high gain screens were installed to keep a sufficient level of brightness for 3D presentations. The problem there is that even 2D screenings are affected by the "hot spotting" effect (where the middle is brighter than the edges).
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #33 on: 28 December 2012, 08:56:09 AM »
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This DSE effect David, are you saying its the projectors screen at fault not a pj fault ?. Is this common at cinemas ?.
Yes, the screen is the problem. My understanding is that high gain screens were installed to keep a sufficient level of brightness for 3D presentations. The problem there is that even 2D screenings are affected by the "hot spotting" effect (where the middle is brighter than the edges).

Ahh ok, these vertical stripes of thin type DSE shadows were mainly in the centre 1/3rd of screen. Obviously as the screen is so big they to looked huge. As I don't go very often or do my homework on cinemas I know very little about it. This screen was curved in at the sides, I guess that's standard now ?.
I should have tried taking a photo but didnt want to turn it into a (pq session).
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #34 on: 28 December 2012, 09:14:29 AM »
So if the realD screen is polarising its possible that the height of the screen could have produced crosstalk then ?.
I think when I get chance I will delve into the murky depths of research on this as I really ought to know what I'm going to tell the odeon is accurate. When I think back to when I was in my teens pq at the cinema was never an issue because the cigarette smoke used to form a thick fog  :lol:.
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #35 on: 29 January 2013, 02:17:12 PM »
Hey, guys! Long time no s... Post :) Been lurkin' :P

So, did anyone go to see The Hobbit "in 48 fps"?

Here in Norway, the only way to experience the higher frame rate was to go see it in 3D. As far as I know, the 2D version was only shown in standard 24 fps...

I went and saw it in good old 2D at 24 fps first, and I thought the movie itself was quite good. I didn't find it quite as epic and captivating as the LOTR movies, but it still gave me the feeling of revisiting that "universe"!

Then I went and saw it in 3D with the higher frame rate...
The 3D was ok, and very impressive now and then, but there was (as usual) more than enough crosstalk throughout to make me fed up with it. (I still say AVATAR is the only movie I think is better in 3D at the cinema than in 2D. Also, I think MiB3 did a good job.)
As for the higher frame rate... :chin: Although I think it worked beautifully in certain panning shots, and that at times it was really somethin', most of the time it gave me the feeling that time was speeding up and slowing down :huh: A bit like when TV's use frame interpolating techniques and the cadence of whatever you're watching seems to vary, but without the artefacts, of course.
Water fell too fast, things blowing in the wind seemed to be swaying/moving too quickly and the most off-putting part was that people were moving too fast. Slightly reminiscent of an old black and white movie where everyone is bobbing along at double speed, although not quite that extreme :P (You know..?)

Now, I know one might think of saying "well, it's just because you're used to 24 fps". However, I don't think that's the case. I've seen other material with different frame rates before and I've played quite a few games at 1080p@60fps. And I've seen cut scenes in games like DMC4 from my computer rendered at 60 fps, and these things never gave me this feeling of unnatural pace. In fact, the first time I saw a cut scene from DMC4 in 1080p@60fps@60Hz on my G30, I remember being amazed by how real the motion seemed - almost as if the stuff on screen was "alive".
So, given my past experiences, I don't think it's a simple case of being used to seeing 24 frames per second as opposed to 48... The weird thing for me is that this version of The Hobbit lasted as long as the standard 2D@24 fps version! (BTW, I wasn't the only one in the cinema who noticed this effect.)

Wtf?! :P Any thoughts, lads..?

Has anyone else seen it?! :rofl:
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #36 on: 29 January 2013, 07:33:38 PM »
Set em my good man, how the devil are you  :P :P, I'm sorry mate I haven't seen the hobbit yet  :lol:.
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #37 on: 29 January 2013, 07:53:20 PM »
Me either, might wait for the Blu's. :)

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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #38 on: 30 January 2013, 03:30:22 PM »
Ok, guys... I'm fine, thanks ;) You, too? :)
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The near-universal panning of the 48fps version of Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit, even from non-technical viewers...
But I haven't googled it yet, so maybe I'll find out that there is, indeed, something funky about it :P
(Sure as hell felt a bit "funky", anyway :P)

Now, although I'm very interested in A/V-tech, I'm still not sure whether my money was well spent here... Glad to have seen it, but 2:45 hours was more than enough time to evaluate this new HFR.
So, unless you're very interested in AV-tech, I wouldn't recommend paying for the 48 fps version. :rofl:
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #39 on: 26 February 2013, 10:44:50 AM »
DJANGO.

I forgot to mention: I saw Django Unchained at the cinema not so long ago. Absolutely excellent! Not only was it well directed, but it had some interesting bits of camera usage and music/sounds, too. It also had some funny bits in there, and not to mention: The acting was top class.
But it also gave that sense of the good old action movie stuff. And I'm no Tarantino fan (although, I did like Pulp Fiction), but I've gotta admit that Django Unchained does show that he really knows how to make an excellent movie. Such a complete package...

If you haven't already, then go and see it! ;)
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #40 on: 26 February 2013, 11:57:00 AM »
SETEM, I liked "Django Unchained" a lot, too. To be honest, I'm not a big fan of Tarantino, although I certainly "dig" his style. I think "Inglorious Basterds" were great, and now "Django" matches that performance.
I've been lead to believe © that Chistoph Waltz has received another bunch of awards for his role. ;)
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« Reply #41 on: 26 February 2013, 05:12:51 PM »
SETEM, I liked "Django Unchained" a lot, too. To be honest, I'm not a big fan of Tarantino, although I certainly "dig" his style. I think "Inglorious Basterds" were great, and now "Django" matches that performance.
I've been lead to believe © that Chistoph Waltz has received another bunch of awards for his role. ;)

I have not seen it yet but i have been told many times it is a great film, so going to try and see it but if not i will wait for the Blu. :)

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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #42 on: 19 May 2013, 06:24:44 PM »
This looks like it might be a must see?


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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #43 on: 20 May 2013, 09:25:45 AM »
A mate went to see Star Trek at an IMAX cinema, he was blown away with the whole thing, resoloution/ 3D effects and sound.

Seems they use 2 projectors for either 4 or 8K. Can anyone give me details on exactly what they are using ?  :).
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Re: Films and at the Cinema.
« Reply #44 on: 20 May 2013, 02:24:13 PM »
A mate went to see Star Trek at an IMAX cinema, he was blown away with the whole thing, resoloution/ 3D effects and sound.

Seems they use 2 projectors for either 4 or 8K. Can anyone give me details on exactly what they are using ?  :) .

You get proper IMAX and then there is IMAX lite cinemas, i'm pretty sure the IMAX cameras, they weigh a ton, which were used on films like The Dark Knight Rises have a resolution of about 16K, could be wrong but i seem to recall reading that somewhere.  There is a Wikipedia article, it might have more info.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAX#IMAX_3D