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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #15 on: 08 November 2012, 05:44:37 PM »

I dont need a Moth Filter, I have 2 cats  :P , Almost forgot about phillips but it would be great to read a review of these models,  :)
I have one and another which sometimes visits and thinks it lives here, i don't think people understand cat nature, they love a bit of attention and i think too many people treat animals badly, ok soap box rant over.

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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #16 on: 08 November 2012, 06:16:19 PM »
I dont need a Moth Filter, I have 2 cats  :P , Almost forgot about phillips but it would be great to read a review of these models,  :)
I have one and another which sometimes visits and thinks it lives here, i don't think people understand cat nature, they love a bit of attention and i think too many people treat animals badly, ok soap box rant over.

I totally agree, I have grown up with cats of all shapes makes and sizes. Each one has its own character, Our two current ones we rescued from the rspca as ferrile cats. they are sisters and in typical sister style fall out a lot!. They are now 13 yrs old and thoroughly spoilt, My avatar is a recent pic of one of them, she thought there was a mad axe murderer knocking at the door  :lol:
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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #17 on: 09 November 2012, 10:18:40 AM »
I dont need a Moth Filter, I have 2 cats  :P , Almost forgot about phillips but it would be great to read a review of these models,  :)

I have one and another which sometimes visits and thinks it lives here, i don't think people understand cat nature, they love a bit of attention and i think too many people treat animals badly, ok soap box rant over.


I totally agree, I have grown up with cats of all shapes makes and sizes. Each one has its own character, Our two current ones we rescued from the rspca as ferrile cats. they are sisters and in typical sister style fall out a lot!. They are now 13 yrs old and thoroughly spoilt, My avatar is a recent pic of one of them, she thought there was a mad axe murderer knocking at the door  :lol:

Here is a picture of Cleo, got her on boxing day around three years ago from a cat rescue centre, she is about 14 and for some reason dislikes other cats which makes it awkward when the other cat visits, have to keep them apart, the one which visits is young and doesn't understand Cleo's hostility towards them.

Click on the pic if it shows a small size, i'm too lazy to upload the pic again.  :P

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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #18 on: 12 November 2012, 01:24:38 PM »
Hello

Here in continental Europe during the last weeks there are a lot of retailers selling the 9706 model (last year model) so probably it's easier also in UK to get that model too for review. The 9706 has an older version of the Moth Eye filter but it would be useful for us to make an approximate idea of goodness of this technology.

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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #19 on: 14 December 2012, 01:16:16 PM »
Hello

here is another reviewer that has gotten access to a test sample from Philips
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/televisions/plasma-and-lcd-tvs/philips-46pfl9707-1094562/review

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Re: Philips 9707
« Reply #20 on: 25 January 2013, 11:58:55 AM »
Another Philips 46PLF9707 review coming soon in AVForums UK.. Why can't have a review of this model in our favourite site HDTVTest ???? :(

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« Reply #21 on: 25 January 2013, 12:39:17 PM »
Looks like I may be testing PFL9707 next week. Any suggestions on what to look out there?
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« Reply #22 on: 25 January 2013, 01:22:37 PM »
I met TP Vision/Philips at CES. It does seem like they are ramping up their promotional activities in the UK. Don't be surprised if you see the first Philips TV review on HDTVtest in years soon  :nod:
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« Reply #23 on: 25 January 2013, 04:21:26 PM »
I met TP Vision/Philips at CES. It does seem like they are ramping up their promotional activities in the UK. Don't be surprised if you see the first Philips TV review on HDTVtest in years soon  :nod:

Would be good to hear about Phillips tv's again. :)

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« Reply #24 on: 25 January 2013, 04:40:09 PM »
I met TP Vision/Philips at CES. It does seem like they are ramping up their promotional activities in the UK. Don't be surprised if you see the first Philips TV review on HDTVtest in years soon  :nod:

Would be good to hear about Phillips tv's again. :)

Agreed, I had a very good Phillips TV years back, as for their smaller audio devices I rate them well  :)
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« Reply #25 on: 25 January 2013, 05:36:49 PM »
I met TP Vision/Philips at CES. It does seem like they are ramping up their promotional activities in the UK. Don't be surprised if you see the first Philips TV review on HDTVtest in years soon  :nod:
Nice teasing! :P It would be very interesting.
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« Reply #26 on: 26 January 2013, 06:21:47 PM »
I met TP Vision/Philips at CES. It does seem like they are ramping up their promotional activities in the UK. Don't be surprised if you see the first Philips TV review on HDTVtest in years soon  :nod:

Good news !!!  :clap:
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« Reply #27 on: 31 January 2013, 01:43:49 PM »
Looks like Philips 9707 has Sharp LCD panel and is capable of some agressive dimming up to zero MLL in large black areas.
But just as Sony HX950, this effect totally crumbles even under some little angle. And there are some halos visible, of course. With 2,35:1 frame you could literally see one deep black field over the image and typical LCD purple-haze in area below. This makes the TV impressive and somewhat unbalanced at the same time. :huh:
What was your experience with advanced local-dimming LCDs (Elite, Sony, Philips, etc.), guys?
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« Reply #28 on: 31 January 2013, 03:06:29 PM »
^ My experience is exactly as you describe. If you're at 0 degrees face on, it can work fairly well.

Sometimes, in my experience, it can even make the contrast performance perceptibly worse, because you now have a reference on screen for what real black actually is... with halos surrounding white areas. The Sharp ELITE does the best job there... but even with that, forget about stepping off-center or standing up.
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« Reply #29 on: 31 January 2013, 03:57:41 PM »
Sometimes, in my experience, it can even make the contrast performance perceptibly worse, because you now have a reference on screen for what real black actually is... with halos surrounding white areas.
Yeah, I noticed it with the room lights out. Once you get used to deep maximum dimmed blacks, every "less dimmed" block becomes apparent and distracting.
Sometimes having constant 0,03 cd/m2 MLL seemed to me better than having a weird mix of zero blacks and 0,05-0,07 cd/m2 flashes on the same screen.
I get the sense that only Elite has more or less stable implementation of high-performance local dimming system. And it sure doesn't come cheap compared to edge-lit design.
Well, the 9707 didn't change my mind, but it has some positive sides. Nevertheless, I can't wait to get a glimpse of ZT60 and F8500!
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