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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #30 on: 11 February 2013, 07:51:58 PM »

David, Panasonic fix the MLL discrepancy on "blacks" in pro modes this year? Or no news until you get the sample
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #31 on: 12 February 2013, 10:45:44 AM »
David i read your post in Highdefinitionjunkies...tell us about the scaling part, it's like samsung now? I had a D550 but i returned for "brightness pops" on PES 2012 and FIFA was terrible...but definitely the scaling is better than my GT50.


Yes, the scaling is now Samsung-esque. It's kind of hard to tell when the TVs are running in Dynamic mode with sharpness up so high (although the latter part actually helps reveal changes in scaling).


You heard that first from me regarding better up-scaling.

Now take a look : http://forums.hdtvtest.co.uk/index.php?topic=7653.0
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #32 on: 12 February 2013, 10:23:25 PM »
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #33 on: 12 February 2013, 10:45:33 PM »
Guess we will just have to wait and see how these measure.

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #34 on: 12 February 2013, 11:55:41 PM »
It would be funny, if the 60ZT60 and the 65VT60 shared the same MLL.  :chin:

Anyway, I hope they adressed the line bleeding of last year with the ZT60 and maybe give us FullHD3D with the same MLL as in 2D mode.

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #35 on: 13 February 2013, 09:09:40 AM »
It would be funny, if the 60ZT60 and the 65VT60 shared the same MLL.  :chin:

Anyway, I hope they adressed the line bleeding of last year with the ZT60 and maybe give us FullHD3D with the same MLL as in 2D mode.
the line bleeding wasn't really an issue? yes there was some, but only a little. And all my plasma's had some line bleed (and I have had a lot)...Not really an issue imho. Better uniformity would be a bigger improvement :)
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #36 on: 14 February 2013, 06:14:47 PM »
Just seen this.........those buggers @ Panasonic stole my idea. :lol:


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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #37 on: 14 February 2013, 09:23:05 PM »
tele1962 or David can you review or talk about this app when be available? It looks interesting cause i don't know how to calibrate my set...i only use AVS709 and do a "proper setup". Thanks
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #38 on: 14 February 2013, 09:27:37 PM »
tele1962 or David can you review or talk about this app when be available? It looks interesting cause i don't know how to calibrate my set...i only use AVS709 and do a "proper setup". Thanks

This won't help you without a meter and software.
Imagine having a seperate remote/screen so that you didn't have to use the TV's own remote and annoying menus that get in the way of the patterns. This is all this does.

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #39 on: 14 February 2013, 09:32:21 PM »
ah ok fahrenheit i see your point Thank you...then with a colorimeter like this: http://www.amazon.com/C3-Meter-CalMAN-Calibration-Software/dp/B0040MTJZ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360877498&sr=8-1&keywords=calman+5 i can use this app?

PS: I want to learn how can "calibrate" my set
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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #40 on: 14 February 2013, 10:00:53 PM »
With or without the app you could use that bundle yes.

However, I don't think that particular meter will do your set justice. If your main goal is learning at an affordable price, then perhaps an i1 Display Pro with the free HCFR software is the better option. Then when you become proficient, you can upgrade to better software and still have a very capable meter that should last serveral years.

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #41 on: 15 February 2013, 12:17:16 AM »
It would be funny, if the 60ZT60 and the 65VT60 shared the same MLL.  :chin:

Anyway, I hope they adressed the line bleeding of last year with the ZT60 and maybe give us FullHD3D with the same MLL as in 2D mode.
the line bleeding wasn't really an issue? yes there was some, but only a little. And all my plasma's had some line bleed (and I have had a lot)...Not really an issue imho.
Little? Uhm, G12 had little amount of line bleeding, but watch a boxing match on the STW50 and you will want to smash the set out of the closed window.  :bash:

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #42 on: 15 February 2013, 12:23:27 AM »
Little? Uhm, G12 had little amount of line bleeding, but watch a boxing match on the STW50 and you will want to smash the set out of the closed window.  :bash:

Its true, I barely saw any line bleed on my old V10 and this is one area where it comprehensively beats my GT50, but it had very obvious ghosting/double images due to the large gap between glass layers.

Perhaps that actually reduced the visible effects of line bleeding.

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« Reply #43 on: 02 June 2013, 06:59:27 PM »
Hi,
In your Panasonic ST60 review you meantioned abot uniformtiy issues already corping on your ST50 HDTV set. Is it that the ST50 developed the uniformity issues in last one year (2012 model)?
I was looking forward to buy a 42ST60 but not sure if the image retention and burn-in issues are completely resolved on ST60. Most of the blu-ray disc I possess are wide screen presentations which means the black bars on the screen may damage the screen in the long run?

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Re: Panasonic Convention 2013 - Mon 11th Feb
« Reply #44 on: 02 June 2013, 07:13:46 PM »
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I was looking forward to buy a 42ST60 but not sure if the image retention and burn-in issues are completely resolved on ST60. Most of the blu-ray disc I possess are wide screen presentations which means the black bars on the screen may damage the screen in the long run?
I've never had any issue with letterboxed movies myself. Black areas of the screen don't seem to be a problem (although let's hear what other users have to say). It's TV channel graffiti logos that are the problem.
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