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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #90 on: 16 January 2014, 07:54:12 PM »

The taxes are not that high, it would be still reasonable to import from USA since their prices are usually pretty low. They sell 65VT60 for $2200, goddamit. :o
However, shipping is very difficult, especially for 65" TVs and higher. It's wise to think about additional item insurance.
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« Reply #91 on: 16 January 2014, 07:56:24 PM »
The taxes would be fairly heavy, more difficult though would be shipping it one piece (much easier for an LCD than a PDP, of course) and finding someone who would export. I think the dealers have to sign agreements saying they'll ship to one territory only.

David do you know if there is any possibility that Vizio might be contemplating a move over here?

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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #92 on: 16 January 2014, 08:09:27 PM »
I haven't heard anything, no.
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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #93 on: 17 January 2014, 09:48:22 AM »
The taxes are not that high, it would be still reasonable to import from USA since their prices are usually pretty low. They sell 65VT60 for $2200, goddamit. :o
However, shipping is very difficult, especially for 65" TVs and higher. It's wise to think about additional item insurance.


It's $ 3128 in eastern Europe (65VT60)

So the taxes are very high in European shops compared to USA. (to protect internal trade, but not TV is made in EU to benefit from the EU free trade)

And what if you get a defective products like this one ? You have to return it all the way back.
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32219

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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #94 on: 17 January 2014, 11:22:17 AM »
It's $ 3128 in eastern Europe (65VT60)
It's about $5000 in Russia. Even importing EU version from Finland or Poland makes sense.
And there's always a risk, yeah, but it's possible to find a local repair services, rather than ship all the way back to US.
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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #95 on: 17 January 2014, 01:30:43 PM »
I just received Panasonic's press release, where they informed about partnership with Mozilla. They will use-develope open source Firefox OS in there next generation Smart TVs. According to Panasonic that should help them with device compatibility due to HTML5, like easier remot control of TV, control of other househould devices (smart type :)) and etc.

What other oppinion about such move from Panasonic?

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« Reply #96 on: 17 January 2014, 09:00:49 PM »
I just received Panasonic's press release, where they informed about partnership with Mozilla. They will use-develope open source Firefox OS in there next generation Smart TVs. According to Panasonic that should help them with device compatibility due to HTML5, like easier remot control of TV, control of other househould devices (smart type :)) and etc.

What other oppinion about such move from Panasonic?

Firefox OS at least respects privacy. The best choice in my opinion and the best move Panasonic ever made.

Will they use it in all 2014 models ?

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« Reply #97 on: 17 January 2014, 10:42:02 PM »
I think the Toshiba Radiance panel and Vizio have something in common.

http://hdguru.com/vizio-shifts-into-high-dynamic-range-at-ces-2014/

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« Reply #98 on: 17 January 2014, 11:49:00 PM »
Firefox OS at least respects privacy. The best choice in my opinion and the best move Panasonic ever made.

Will they use it in all 2014 models ?

I found this press release in English. They mentioned "next generationa Smart TV" - not so clear if they mean 2014 or future products.

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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #99 on: 18 January 2014, 06:19:56 AM »
Will they use it in all 2014 models ?
No, they plan to use it in future products, since all presented 2014 models have similar UI to the 2013.
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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #100 on: 18 January 2014, 10:43:57 AM »
Will they use it in all 2014 models ?

No, they plan to use it in future products, since all presented 2014 models have similar UI to the 2013.


I am pretty sure it's for the 2014 line.
They have plenty of time until march to install the new OS, that was not ready to show at CES.

Next generation means the one that is not yet released, so it's 2014.

Firefox OS to Power Panasonic Smart TVs and New Devices in 2014
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/06/firefox-os-panasonic-smart-tvs-new-devices-2014/
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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #101 on: 27 January 2014, 01:15:27 PM »
A short, almost correct overview for USA market TV lineup :
(some mistakes like Toshiba L7400 in reality comes in both 47" and 55" etc.) :

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26049695#p26049695

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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #102 on: 27 January 2014, 02:32:11 PM »
Concerning "Dolby Vision".

Is "Dolby Vision" in reality what we already see on PDP TV (like ST/GT/VT60) due to very high contrast ratio+ABL not? I mean PDP's picture pop up, almost 3D like during BD video view due to such deep blacks at about 100-120 cd/m2? Ant it is aimed more at LCD market to get closer to PDP visual effect subjectively:)?

More about Dolby Vision:
http://blog.dolby.com/2013/12/tv-bright-enough/
http://blog.dolby.com/2013/12/tv-missing-colors/

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« Reply #103 on: 28 January 2014, 04:51:46 AM »
Is "Dolby Vision" in reality what we already see on PDP TV (like ST/GT/VT60) due to very high contrast ratio+ABL not? I mean PDP's picture pop up, almost 3D like during BD video view due to such deep blacks at about 100-120 cd/m2? Ant it is aimed more at LCD market to get closer to PDP visual effect subjectively:)?
I think, Dolby Vision on LCD is a "Poor man's Plasma". :lol: Which will cost hell of a lot, nevertheless.
I'm pretty sure Kuro owners have experienced that "high-contrast immersion" before it was popular.
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Re: CES 2014
« Reply #104 on: 06 January 2015, 11:33:42 AM »