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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #15 on: 29 March 2014, 06:05:39 AM »

' some niggles with motion resolution' ...  :lol:, I thought that was high on your list ?  :P
Yes, it is high on my list for gaming, and the TV is laggy, too.
But for video at 24 fps it is great. Not to mention the best contrast ever been, uniformity and free viewing angles.
So I wouldn't compare that to LCD, even if motion resolution could be better (the only thing "similar" between them at the moment). :P
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #16 on: 27 June 2014, 11:32:42 AM »
LG 4k OLED 65" and 77" coming soon... :)
http://flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1403851665

I wonder when we'll be seeing ("at least") 1080 lines of motion resolution :chin: ???
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #17 on: 27 June 2014, 01:11:59 PM »
I wonder when we'll be seeing ("at least") 1080 lines of motion resolution :chin: ???
Most probably, we won't see high motion res. They still use sample-and-hold, so... :bash: ;)

On a positive note, the pricing for 65" 4K OLED is pretty reasonable, I'd say. I know 5,999 is a lot of money, but at least it is worth it, compared to 4K LCDs.
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2014, 02:09:03 PM »
I wonder when we'll be seeing ("at least") 1080 lines of motion resolution :chin: ???
Most probably, we won't see high motion res. They still use sample-and-hold, so... :bash: ;)
Yes, but I was thinking that someone might use pulse (correct term?) method or at least implement a decent BFI mode later on... Someone HAS TO!!! :help:
Say, if LG supplies the panels, is there still a chance to drive it with pulsing, or is the driving method decided already at manufacturing stage?

On a positive note, the pricing for 65" 4K OLED is pretty reasonable, I'd say. I know 5,999 is a lot of money, but at least it is worth it, compared to 4K LCDs.
Yeah, now that PDP is gone, the price gap between the current top of the range non-OLED 4k TV's and that 65" 4k OLED will be much smaller than the the price gap between the old KURO and its competition back in the day... Except that, for those who can afford it, the difference in PQ will be "infinitely" larger :P (Pun intended)
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #19 on: 27 June 2014, 04:22:12 PM »
Say, if LG supplies the panels, is there still a chance to drive it with pulsing, or is the driving method decided already at manufacturing stage?
It's rather possible than not. However, pulse-driven panel would require driving circuits, which are quite different to what LG uses now.
I think such "customized" panels for different applications can still be ordered from LG.Display as OEM part. I wouldn't be surprised if, say, Panasonic tries to revive "plasma-esque" approach even with LG OLED panels. Too bad they seem to be refocusing farther away from consumer TVs...

Yeah, now that PDP is gone, the price gap between the current top of the range non-OLED 4k TV's and that 65" 4k OLED will be much smaller than the the price gap between the old KURO and its competition back in the day... Except that, for those who can afford it, the difference in PQ will be "infinitely" larger :P (Pun intended)
It is a very beautiful display, indeed. I've seen 77" version, it looks just stunning, even better than first-gen 55-inchers. And 4K starts to play its role on 77" size.
Having 65" and 77" 4K OLED TVs on the market is a nice thing, anyway. Hope it's a sign of a future to come.
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #20 on: 30 June 2014, 03:11:08 PM »
It's rather possible than not. However, pulse-driven panel would require driving circuits, which are quite different to what LG uses now.
I think such "customized" panels for different applications can still be ordered from LG.Display as OEM part. I wouldn't be surprised if, say, Panasonic tries to revive "plasma-esque" approach even with LG OLED panels. Too bad they seem to be refocusing farther away from consumer TVs...
They can always use a black frame insertion method just like Samsung did with its oled, it seems to work pretty well.

Regarding the launch price, I noticed that the 65" display is 2000 cheaper than the 55" when it was released almost one year ago!
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #21 on: 30 June 2014, 04:35:19 PM »
They can always use a black frame insertion method just like Samsung did with its oled, it seems to work pretty well.
LG's implementation didn't shine on previous models, but they may improve this.

Regarding the launch price, I noticed that the 65" display is 2000 cheaper than the 55" when it was released almost one year ago!
We should also keep in mind that there aren't any real competition to drive prices down. Looks like it is LG's own will to expand OLED market.
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #22 on: 30 June 2014, 07:20:05 PM »
LG's OLED panel - at least in its current iteration - is not fast enough for black frame insertion unfortunately.

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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #23 on: 02 July 2014, 10:05:55 AM »
We should also keep in mind that there aren't any real competition to drive prices down. Looks like it is LG's own will to expand OLED market.
I think the competition comes from 4K lcds, that's why LG needs to launch these 4K oleds. Consumers might stretch their wallet for oled quality picture to a certain extent, but I doubt they're ready to pay twice the price of a 4K lcd. And it doesn't look like LG wants to keep oled as a niche market.
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #24 on: 02 July 2014, 02:17:27 PM »
Nope, they already said it will become mainstream "soon" :nod:
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #25 on: 23 July 2014, 02:24:30 PM »
Check this video of 18" flexible OLED prototype by LG:


Its flexibility looks damn impressive.
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #26 on: 23 July 2014, 02:30:30 PM »
Now, THAT has some cool potential! :nod:
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #27 on: 23 July 2014, 02:43:13 PM »
Crazy :o Is it some kind of backlight on the left of the LG logo at 0:23?
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #28 on: 23 July 2014, 03:09:06 PM »
Crazy :o Is it some kind of backlight on the left of the LG logo at 0:23?
I think it is reflection of some lights around. Anyway, that's not the point!
Flexibility wraps it all up, if you know what I mean. ;)
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Re: 2014 Line Up From LG
« Reply #29 on: 23 July 2014, 10:41:29 PM »
LG's OLED panel - at least in its current iteration - is not fast enough for black frame insertion unfortunately.

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I was willing to choke that frog by saying to myself, that my current LG Plasma is also in the 700 lines motion resolution playfield, but just as I was about to send the 3000,- Euros to the onlinestore to receive my 55EA980V, Mr. David Mackenzie himself shocked me with the mention of...

... LG OLED is plagued with undefeatable DNR!!!!  :o :'( :bash:

How extreme is the DNR I wonder?! Does it smear the film grain away? Does it cost high frequency detail? Please provide a quantum of solace, Vincent...  :'(
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