Author Topic:

Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K

 (Read 8302 times)

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« on: 08 December 2014, 01:12:29 PM »

Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K

In your tests there is a huge void of information regarding upscaling 480p to 4K on 4K TV models.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/category/reviews

This is one of the most important tests since most channels are SD around the world and in Europe.

Also state more about upscaling from 1080p to 4K on 4K TV models.

Offline Adlermann

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 48
  • -Received: 134
  • Posts: 406
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #1 on: 08 December 2014, 03:55:39 PM »


This is one of the most important tests since most channels are SD around the world and in Europe.

Euh, maybe in the eastern european countries, but here n the west everything is HD, with HD content...


But well, that's not really europe anyway, so who cares ;P
panasonic tx-p55vt60 | Panasonic DBT 360 | Mac Mini 2011 base model | Denon 1911 AVR | Wharfedale diamond 10.5, CM, 10.1 | Playstation 4 | Super Nintentdo Entertainment System | Beer

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #2 on: 08 December 2014, 05:07:12 PM »


This is one of the most important tests since most channels are SD around the world and in Europe.

Euh, maybe in the eastern european countries, but here n the west everything is HD, with HD content...

But well, that's not really europe anyway, so who cares ;P

West Europe getting rich by exploiting poor Eastern European and allowing them to join EU so the exploitation become legal and moral.

HD 1080p in civilized Europe or 1080i ?

HDTVtest.co.uk still needs to test upscaling of 480p to 4K.

Soon all Eastern Europe is getting digital for the first time and with such big corruption, there will be millions of people with 4K sets watching 480p !
« Last Edit: 08 December 2014, 05:09:08 PM by Xerox »

Offline David Mackenzie

  • Global Moderator
  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 908
  • -Received: 2043
  • Posts: 3561
    • View Profile
    • Personal web site
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #3 on: 08 December 2014, 08:47:44 PM »
If it's Europe it'd be 576i, not 480p.

SD scaling to 2160p, ouch...
HDTVTest.co.uk Reviewer & US Correspondent
--
Please don't send me the same question through multiple methods (email/forum/PM) since I can't respond 3 separate times. Please post on the forums or use private messages for messages that need privacy. Thanks!

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #4 on: 08 December 2014, 09:40:19 PM »
If it's Europe it'd be 576i, not 480p.

SD scaling to 2160p, ouch...


You are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television

480p is still 2 times the pixels per second compared to 576i.

Quote
RGB 576i is 50 fields per second of 720x288 pixels = 10.4 million pixels per second.

Component 480p is 60 fields per second of 720x480 pixels = 20.7 million pixels per second.


If Samsung is really excellent in upscaling as you say in your reviews then please test SD to 4K scaling since most of eastern Europe in 2015 is getting 30+ SD channels and 1 or 2 HD channels.

It is unfair to test the scaling capacities based on HD UK programs and ignore the channels that have SD content for the next 10 years probably in eastern Europe.

Moreover this will prove in a clear and definitive way who has the absolute best scaling capabilities and if 4K must be avoided in these cases. (SD to 4K)

Thank you. Please try to test for 2015 models.
« Last Edit: 08 December 2014, 09:44:21 PM by Xerox »

Offline FoxHounder

  • Global Moderator
  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 704
  • -Received: 985
  • Posts: 1643
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #5 on: 08 December 2014, 11:16:35 PM »
If it's Europe it'd be 576i, not 480p.

SD scaling to 2160p, ouch...
You are right.
No sh*t! David is actually right about someting. :o
Video: Panasonic TX-PR55VT60 + Pioneer BDP-140
Audio: Onkyo TX-NR626 + Boston Acoustics CS260 II 5.1

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #6 on: 08 December 2014, 11:19:36 PM »
If it's Europe it'd be 576i, not 480p.

SD scaling to 2160p, ouch...
You are right.
No sh*t! David is actually right about someting. :o

"Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."

Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.

 :rofl:

Offline FoxHounder

  • Global Moderator
  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 704
  • -Received: 985
  • Posts: 1643
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #7 on: 08 December 2014, 11:29:59 PM »
"Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."

 :rofl:
"And give the readers their feckin' calibration settings for Christ's sake".
Amen, brother! :clap:
Video: Panasonic TX-PR55VT60 + Pioneer BDP-140
Audio: Onkyo TX-NR626 + Boston Acoustics CS260 II 5.1

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #8 on: 09 December 2014, 01:09:55 AM »
If SD to 4K is not good in 2015 it will be useless to buy a 4K and pay the premium now when most channels will be SD.

But if the scaling is good then it is worth it for the present & future.

If it's Europe it'd be 576i, not 480p.

SD scaling to 2160p, ouch...

What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?

Offline David Mackenzie

  • Global Moderator
  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 908
  • -Received: 2043
  • Posts: 3561
    • View Profile
    • Personal web site
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #9 on: 09 December 2014, 02:55:39 AM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!
HDTVTest.co.uk Reviewer & US Correspondent
--
Please don't send me the same question through multiple methods (email/forum/PM) since I can't respond 3 separate times. Please post on the forums or use private messages for messages that need privacy. Thanks!

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #10 on: 09 December 2014, 07:02:32 AM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!

But wouldn't Samsung algorithm make it look like it was true 4K ?
 :rofl:

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #11 on: 09 December 2014, 11:52:19 AM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!


But wouldn't Samsung algorithm make it look like it was true 4K ?
 :rofl:


No SD to 4K scaling was done : http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue65hu8500-201412093960.htm

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #12 on: 09 December 2014, 05:34:45 PM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!

Have you ever tested SD to 4K ?
How can Samsung have excellent scaling if it fails SD to 4K tests ?

Offline Adlermann

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 48
  • -Received: 134
  • Posts: 406
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #13 on: 09 December 2014, 07:44:25 PM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!

Have you ever tested SD to 4K ?
How can Samsung have excellent scaling if it fails SD to 4K tests ?

sorry mate, but garbage in, is always garbage out.
SD to 4k scaling will always be terrible, the source material is just  basically crap. And really, the world does not care about sd to 4k scaling, since most of the content is HD already.
panasonic tx-p55vt60 | Panasonic DBT 360 | Mac Mini 2011 base model | Denon 1911 AVR | Wharfedale diamond 10.5, CM, 10.1 | Playstation 4 | Super Nintentdo Entertainment System | Beer

Offline Xerox

  • Calibrated
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Gave: 50
  • -Received: 57
  • Posts: 725
    • View Profile
Re: Test Upscaling Properly on 4K models : SD to 4K | 2K to 4K
« Reply #14 on: 09 December 2014, 09:42:05 PM »
Meaning give back your hard earned money to the rich and then give your life spirit to god by being his slave and indoctrinating your children to do the same.
Wow, and I thought I took display accuracy seriously.

Quote
What do you mean by ouch ? Any more details ?
That's a lot of interpolation!


Have you ever tested SD to 4K ?
How can Samsung have excellent scaling if it fails SD to 4K tests ?


sorry mate, but garbage in, is always garbage out.
SD to 4k scaling will always be terrible, the source material is just  basically crap. And really, the world does not care about sd to 4k scaling, since most of the content is HD already.


300+ million eastern Europeans care !
( in red )



Please Test SD to 4K !
« Last Edit: 09 December 2014, 10:03:02 PM by Xerox »