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Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« on: 10 January 2015, 01:05:21 PM »

Is there any reason/real known facts to buy 2015 TV the model, compared to for examble 2014 Sony models. 4K is not reason for me.. Is there a wider color range in any new models?

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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2015, 01:52:27 PM »
Not much can be known about the performance of a TV before someone tests it... Also, 4k/UHD, hfr, Rec.2020 etc. are all subjects dependent on both the tech (TV, media players) and the content availability.

You should definitely wait for the reviews and the opportunity to demo before making any decisions, if you can ;)

(You could say that Sony is a good bet for low input lag, though :))
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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2015, 04:09:43 PM »
Is there any reason/real known facts to buy 2015 TV the model, compared to for examble 2014 Sony models. 4K is not reason for me.. Is there a wider color range in any new models?

I agree with SETEM.
When you are November / December 2014 there is no need to buy a 2014 product (unless that product was something spectacular at a very low price) since by next year  February / March 2015 new models are already in shops.

They definitely didn't use 2014 panels. So expect some considerable bonuses on all manufacturers with 1080p models. We still don't know if Quantum Dot is coming to any 1080p models. But we need to wait for sites to reveal them all. I will buy myself a TV in 2015 and i need to see some specs / full lineups, some reviews and prices !

Moreover you either have a Rec.2020 screen or you don't so DCI P3 not sure if it is worth it when content is still Rec.709. (except for games or other sources)
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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2015, 05:27:47 PM »
Thanks for the answers guys!!
I'll wait when the new models comes to stores, or get properly tested... Damn! ;) I just don't want to play games like gta V before I get a bigger screen. Games like gta doesn't feel movie-like from a 27" monitor.. Battlefield 4 etc. are amazing when you play with a monitor.

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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2015, 10:04:32 PM »
Thanks for the answers guys!!
I'll wait when the new models comes to stores, or get properly tested... Damn! ;) I just don't want to play games like gta V before I get a bigger screen. Games like gta doesn't feel movie-like from a 27" monitor.. Battlefield 4 etc. are amazing when you play with a monitor.

What is wrong with Battlefield 4 on 65" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Dpme8FjHs

Also you can play 1080p and the TV up-scales it to 4k but not sure if that is possible with PC games without interpolation.
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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #5 on: 11 January 2015, 08:26:38 AM »
Thanks for the answers guys!!
I'll wait when the new models comes to stores, or get properly tested... Damn! ;)
Get a well-praised TV now, when prices are at lower side. You won't see anything ground-breaking in 2015, since basic LCD tech is all the same, and you shouldn't care for wide gamut, because there are still literally no content to be used with. So what's the point for manufacturers to brag about it?
When the new 4K/WCG/HDR/whatever content will be widely available, it will be the time to change the TV anyway.
It kind of naive to think that 2015 models will be leaps and jumps ahead of 2014, if we talk about LCD. They can introduce new problems either, because many manufacturers don't take colour fidelity and gamut conversion too seriously.
It also makes sense to buy 1080p set for gaming, because it's widely used on current-gen consoles and won't make excessive weight on PC. To play in 4K comfortably you'll need a pretty damn powerful PC for games in future years.
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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2015, 12:01:19 PM »
Thanks for the answers guys!!
I'll wait when the new models comes to stores, or get properly tested... Damn! ;)
Get a well-praised TV now, when prices are at lower side. You won't see anything ground-breaking in 2015, since basic LCD tech is all the same, and you shouldn't care for wide gamut, because there are still literally no content to be used with. So what's the point for manufacturers to brag about it?
When the new 4K/WCG/HDR/whatever content will be widely available, it will be the time to change the TV anyway.
It kind of naive to think that 2015 models will be leaps and jumps ahead of 2014, if we talk about LCD. They can introduce new problems either, because many manufacturers don't take colour fidelity and gamut conversion too seriously.
It also makes sense to buy 1080p set for gaming, because it's widely used on current-gen consoles and won't make excessive weight on PC. To play in 4K comfortably you'll need a pretty damn powerful PC for games in future years.

Take a 1080p model from 2015. Just like Sony reached 14 ms in 2014 they may go down to < 10 ms in 2015. Not to mention other brands will follow Sony with low input lag just because of that 14 ms record in 2014.

Competition is good.
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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2015, 08:49:01 PM »
There's  nothing wrong playing with 65" TV 😃 For me its easier to spot enemys from my pretty fast monitor than my old 47" slow LG... Can your eyes really notice 10ms compared to 14ms?

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Re: Any reason/fact to buy 2015 TV model?
« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2015, 11:20:51 PM »
There's  nothing wrong playing with 65" TV 😃 For me its easier to spot enemys from my pretty fast monitor than my old 47" slow LG... Can your eyes really notice 10ms compared to 14ms?

Learn and never forget !
https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/new-monitor-panel-discussions/page/3/#post-34077

Short answer : yes ! You need ~8ms to stop noticing motion blur on 60Hz. ~4ms on 120Hz.
https://pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-affecting-pc-monitor-responsiveness/
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